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« on: September 08, 2004, 11:02:47 AM »

I thought that I'd follow up.

Q: How much money does it take to run the .net?

A: Since our traffic is kinda stiff, we have a dedicated server.  For a variety of reasons, we lease a dedicated server, and the lease payments are, as of this writing, $225/mo.

Q: Who pays for that?

A: The answer is three-fold: your donations, affiliate programs/advertising that we have with online music shops, and my bank account.

Q: What's the distribution of that?

A: So far in 2004, we've taken in around $310 in donations, server hosting fees, and affiliate programs.  The rest has come out of my bank account.

Q: Isn't that painful?

A: Ehhhh.  I agreed to cover the remaining amount, whatever it was, back in May 2003 when we started this thing.  I'm not backing out now.

Q: How can I help?

A: Look into being a Charter Member, donating money to us, etc.

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no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2005, 01:32:45 PM »

I really need to update the total.  Smile

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Geof, I'm sure that you are totally right.

no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2005, 01:41:14 PM »

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I really need to update the total.  Smile

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It's funny that you mention that because I was going to ask how you were doing for 2005.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2005, 01:42:47 PM »

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I really need to update the total.  Smile


It's funny that you mention that because I was going to ask how you were doing for 2005.


Pretty slim, pretty slim.

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no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2005, 01:47:46 PM »

wilt thou be willing to direct me to the old donation thread?
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2005, 02:07:45 PM »

Sure!

Charter Membership

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no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2005, 03:10:14 PM »

I'm going to remove the 2004 numbers in a minute, so let me state them: we got about $650 in donations, CD sales [thanks again, Andy O!], and hosting fees in 2004.  We also sold $200 of ads to eb+flo [never mind that I still need a check for the second month].

I'll break down the numbers a little more clearly, once a month, here and on the front page of the forum.  I'll withhold the names of donors unless there's some massive interest in it and if it's okay with them.

For January: $75 in donations [two donors].
For February [to date]: $100 in donations [four donors], $123 in hosting fees [large because I had been negligent in invoicing folks, and because one hostee paid a year in advance].

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Leave it to Spencer to jump to the next level of stupid.

And I'm not even all that smart.

Geof, I'm sure that you are totally right.

no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2005, 10:55:03 AM »

FWIW, yes, this is very close to an update, like ... by Sunday.

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Leave it to Spencer to jump to the next level of stupid.

And I'm not even all that smart.

Geof, I'm sure that you are totally right.

no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2005, 06:05:58 PM »

I have a few free minutes and motivation to do this, so ...

Again, costs of server lease: $224/mo.  Hosting for [rocksmyfaceoff.info] runs $8/mo.  Add to that domain renewals at ~$10/yr. for caedmonscall.net, derekwebb.net, rmfo.net, rmfo-pics.net, rmfo-blogs.com, rocksmyfaceoff.com, and rocksmyfaceoff.net, add it all up, and we're talking ... $2,854.00 a year in expenses, roughly.

We bring in about $100/mo. in hosting fees, after PayPal takes their cut, each month.  That's $1,200 a year in income.

So, we're looking at $1,654.00 left over every year.

In the last calendar year [from today, 19 Sep 2005], Charter Members have graciously donated $560.  This is about average in any given year in the two-plus years since we've been doing this thing.

So, we're looking at still >$1,000/yr. in deficits between what we bring in and what I pay out.  And I have to tell you: our server fees don't get cheaper as the years go by.

Who pays the difference?
Left Arrow! does.

Now, I do so willingly and, most days, cheerfully.  It's like I said on the staff backchannel when we first started talking about this---"I don't have a mortgage, a car note, or a wife."  However, as most of you know, I've bought a house since then [and stopped keeping roommates, who always subletted from me and, essentially, paid the server fees with their rent].  I've driven my truck for nine years today, and it has the ~180,000 miles to show for it.  It's still reliable, but the chances of it remaining so with no cash outlays on it are slim.  And, well, I'm still single ... but I won't be single forever.  [I hope.]

So, uh ... yeah.

Now, I'm very much willing to "charge" myself hosting fees and still donate all my administrative time for free.  I'm a volunteer---this is my biggest hobby, and I really do enjoy it.  But charging myself those fees still doesn't bring us close to $1,000/yr.

My next topic here will explain a plan to bridge this gap.

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Leave it to Spencer to jump to the next level of stupid.

And I'm not even all that smart.

Geof, I'm sure that you are totally right.

no team should ever celebrate being the nl central champs (st. louis included) thats like bragging that you made it 2 second base with a hooker.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 09:47:53 AM »

How does one get to the Charter Member thread so they can donate?
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 10:01:53 AM »

How does one get to the Charter Member thread so they can donate?

http://rocksmyfaceoff.net/membership/
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2005, 10:23:51 AM »

Thanks, Chris!!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2005, 12:40:02 PM »

Thanks, Chris!!!

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2005, 12:44:55 PM »

Mark...you've got it all wrong.  I've always wanted a MONK.

Sheesh.

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2005, 01:03:50 PM »

Thanks, Chris!!!

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